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 Betreff des Beitrags: Looking for advise for watercooling components
BeitragVerfasst: Sa 11. Nov 2006, 01:26 
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Sorry for writing this in English, but I'm afraid my German is not exactly tops.

I'm looking to rebuild my system for an audio workstation to a watercooled solution, but looking at its hardware it's not going to be a very simple build - so I would like some advise as to which components would be ideal to use in this situation.

Targeted purpose:
- quiet
- keeping fan count down to max. a few quiet 12cm fans and possible crossflow fan for a larger passive radiator.
- very reliable solution with solid cooling properties and not too complex/involved maintenance.
- no overclocking is intended, basically want to use high performance memory with high performance cpu for getting max performance with high reliability on low memory latencies

We were thinking mainly along the lines of using a maxi or ultra radiator, either freestanding or mounted to the case - but using the optional radial fan for performance boosting.

List of hardware:
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Case:
Mountainmods UFO Optimax case with solid top (black),
more info here:
Link entfernt

Powersupply:
Link entfernt

Motherboard:
Asus P5W64 WS Pro, there is a passive heatpipe system on the motherboard - maybe it's best to leave that alone or still recommended to use watercooling on it too? (there will be a 12cm fan in the PSU and another in the rear cpu area of the board, I will use a low RPM papst fan for that)
http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l ... odelmenu=1

CPU:
Intel Core2 Extreme X6800 Box, I would like to cool this with watercooling
http://www.intel.com/products/processor ... /index.htm

Memory:
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D, if possible watercooled (without having to remove the original heatsinks?)
http://www.corsair.com/corsair/products ... 500C5D.pdf

Videocard:
Asus 7600GT silencer 256MB (passive cool), I would like to cool this with watercooling
http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l ... odelmenu=1

2 optical drives:
Plextor PX130A Black
http://www.plextor.be/products/px-130a. ... ce=PX-130A

Plextor PX760SA-T3 Black
http://www.plextor.be/products/px-760sa ... e=PX-760SA

(meaning I have 8 x 5.25" bays left for other use & the 3.5" bays in the rear of the case)

1 Storage controller:
Adaptec SAS PCIe 7805 with 256MB & battery back up, this card features a Fan that is connected through the card with two notches on the I/O processor(so much like a videocard), I would like to have this watercooled if there is a possibility
http://www.adaptec.com/NR/rdonlyres/3EF ... _0106L.pdf

There is also a PCIe firewire controller (to connect to my RME Fireface 800), but it doesn't require any special cooling.

8 harddiscs (!):
4 x 74GB SAS harddiscs from Seagate Cheetah ST336754SS 15KRPM
http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/dis ... 97,00.html

4 x 500GB Seagate SATA harddiscs 7200RPM ST3500641AS
http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/dis ... 05,00.html

All of these should be watercooled. (I'm was thinking to use the high end cooler for 5.25"bay with the thermalsensor option front)

My main problem is that I do not have sufficient experience with watercooling to assemble the complete partslist and everything with the different tubing measurements and connections required isn't very clear to me.
Could anybody help me with this and assemble a list of suggested components - noting my comments above and the following?

I've been looking at innovatek, ***, *** - not only because they seem to be offering good solutions but also because they are obtainable here.

What interests me most from innovatek is the completeness of the parts offering, but mainly a solution based on these products:

- the passive maxi radiator (in fitting color where possible) + the booster solution (crossflow fan)
Konvekt-O-Matic MAXI
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... a2a16.html

or

Konvekt-O-Matic Ultra
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 23f01.html

with the fitting booster hardware & plexi:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 1bb01.html

The Maxi will be more suitable as it can fit on one of the sidepanels easily (the case is 18"x18"x18") or I could co for the ultra with the
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 19e07.html if the Booster is not required according
to your tech expertise.

If black is still available, it would fit best with the case I think - but I read most colours except for aluminum were out of production.

Or would it be better in my case to use an external solution like the Aquamatic 2 Pro or *** kit or the***Link entfernt

The solution should provide intelligent fan and pumpspeed control to reduce noise to the minimum required for appropriate cooling.

- the innovatek top performance pump + reservoir, controller, safeties (whatever needed for proper mounting, making it quiet)
(unless not required by using an external solution, which NEEDS to Bequietscht)

I was thinking the innovatek HPPS Plus
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 41000.html

+

http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... e6098.html

With mounting / damming hardware:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... cba04.html

Comparing mainly to other solutions from *** and the *** solutions ***. The *** is likely not strong enough for this one, though it could be installed with the **** reservoir in a 5.25" bay, making for easy installation.

Link entfernt

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- suitable tubing/anti bending, mounting gear/connectors, anti-algy/corrosion solution ... How much distilled water would be required approx. for this setup?

- the innovatek memory cooler
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 51701.html
I would prefer to cool both sides of my 2 sticks if the measurements/space between the sticks allows for it

- the 8 harddisc coolers + black front with thermometer for all of them - or if needed I could mount part of them using a 3.5" watercooling solutions in the rear 3.5" bays. Which actually offers the best cooling performance: the ones that go on the bottom of the harddiscs or the ones that cool from the side. I would think the ones that go on the bottom, but can anybody tell me from experience? *** for example also has a solution.

I was mainly thinking along the lines of:

8x
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 54b01.html
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... f1544.html

or a combination of those with some harddiscs on 3.5":
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 1253e.html

Less good alternatives, maybe?:
Link entfernt

- possible one of smaller innovatek blocks for the storage controller? It looks much like an older grahics card fan, so maybe an older block would fit? (I can provide fan measurements and pin distance if desired) I was also looking at ***'s, and my preference here goes to the *** *** - but if somebody can convince me otherwise... I'm, willing to listen to the advise of the experienced users.
I was thinking maybe this one:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... a6215.html
with maybe this:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... cb71a.html

or this?
Link entfernt

- block for the videocard, my preference here goes to the *** *** & ***- but if somebody can convince me otherwise... I'm, willing to listen to the advise of the experienced users.
Link entfernt

Alt. from innovatek would be:
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... 8ad01.html

Best option?

- block for the cpu, my preference here goes to the *** - unless somebody can convince me otherwise for some good reason?
Link entfernt


I haven't read thaat many tests yet about the innovatek coolers, maybe this is an alternative?
http://www.webshop-innovatek.de/0000009 ... ab101.html

If anybody would help me with a list of parts that are required and advised that would be of great help to me? Any feedback is welcome.

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Sorry,

but this reply is not very useful to me. For example: I cannot find on your site which tube diametres you are using for which devices + it isn't always clear to me which parts included and which have to be ordered (e.g. connector pieces) and neither can somebody else who has more experience with watercooling, so I'm not the only one not seeing that information...

Can you specify the outer/inner diameter of your tubes? Is it 1/2" outer?
I'm looking to combine with a cpu block that is 1/2".

I was looking mainly at the maxi radiator with the booster kit (crossflowfan) because that is supposed to Bequietscht and offer much better performance.
I see many colours of the maxi and ultra radiators are nolonger available, which ones still are? Is the 7600GT graphics cooler available? (as it is not listed at my distributors under that SKU)

The ultra with the stands/feet may be an option too, but I fear it might be borderline if I decide to upgrade something afterwards.

I want to be able to select the components I like from multiple parties, not just innovatek though I am interested in getting some of the components from innovatek.

Maybe it is easier to handle this via email in more detail ? I was just posting it up here so other forum users with similar questions could find the answer here.

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